Colin
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Post by Colin on Apr 10, 2015 9:39:59 GMT
It's a shame he thinks your categorizing of drinks is narrow minded and doing a disservice to anyone. To someone with a culinary background your approach makes perfect sense. Learning a recipe will teach you how to make one dish while learning a technique will give you the ability to create a countless number. Your categorized technique driven system gives bar-tenders the ability and knowledge to make drinks properly, but also create new beverages just as easily. Wondrich claiming that your approach is wrong is equatable to a culinary instructor refusing to teach a student the mother sauces and instead handing them a book containing thousands of recipes. Would we really be doing a great disservice to men and women's interpretation of the great tradition of sauce allemande by teaching it as a variation of a velouté? I don't think so...
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Post by Felix on Apr 14, 2015 16:14:13 GMT
Hey Andrew,
It seems like he never addresses the core issues. Just like Colin had pointed out - your philosophies and methods of teaching / making drinks, just makes more sense.
But I do think you two are making two different arguments. You're saying that there was and should be a 'system' of how to mix drinks (you also provide evidence of that).
He (Wondrich) doesn't think (at least that's how I interpreted his overall responses) that there was a 'system' - and that your interpretations of the historical records are subjective.
HIS WORDS:
“Your feelings about the tradition are your feelings. A great many of them are mistaken, although I have no doubt that they result in tasty drinks (e.g., the Swan Cocktail in Old Waldorf Bar Days, of which you make so much, actually calls for “Juice of one lime,” while Straub’s version, with the portion of lime juice you deem correct, calls for “Dry Gin”; inconvenient, but incontrovertible). By forcing an unruly and heterodox tradition into narrow, theory-based categories, you do a disservice to the men and women who each interpreted this great tradition in their own way."
AND so, there is a fundamental difference in how He and ALMOST ALL other "Mixologist," view this craft.
You're right Andrew...they're wrong. Even if your interpretation is subjective (Which it is not : your documentation proves that) - it is a better way to do this business.
Keep f&*^ing them till they love you!!
cheers,
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Post by Andrew on Apr 16, 2015 0:26:47 GMT
Hello Felix!
Thanks! I just put up a new post on the site that addresses the 'disservice' comment.
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